Wednesday, 17 August 2011

Re: [Biodiesel] Re: glycerine pretreatment poor separation

 

Yes indeed... lots more work and time with less biodiesel in the end.  Why do you do this?  I don't see how you can use a filter to separate the glycerin.  I've run glycerin thru a 1 micron filter just to see what would happen and almost all of it went right thru the filter.
Eric Krupp, Michigan
 
In a message dated 8/17/2011 8:32:21 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, harveyking@hotmail.com writes:
Seems like the hard way to go.

Dick

--- In Biodiesel@yahoogroups.com, Barry Latham <barrylatham@...> wrote:
>
> It's not really a five stage process, it's just multiple settlings that are natural to the two-stage process that a lot of people use.
>  
> 1. 90% of MeOH/KOH used, settled
> 2. Remaining 10% used, settled
> 3. Biodiesel stored for 2+ weeks in a HHO tank. The bottom 20 gallons is not pumped out for use.
> 4. Biodiesel pumped into cone bottom 'delivery tank' for use within 24 hours. The bottom gallon is drained into a glycerin/biodiesel settling tank before use.
> 5. When pumping from the reactor to the HHO tank and HHO-delivery tank, I use golden rod filters to separate out glycerin.
>  
> Barry
>
> From: "lotus3390@..." <lotus3390@...>
> To: Biodiesel@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 11:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [Biodiesel] Re: glycerine pretreatment poor separation
>
>
>  
>
> Barry,
> I've not heard of a 5 stage process... how does that work?
> Eric Krupp, Michigan
>
> In a message dated 8/15/2011 12:24:27 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> barrylatham@... writes:
> I have been using 16% MeOH for years now and get good separation, but my process naturally has 5 different stages where glycerin separation takes place without me haveing to do any extra work or add extra time.
> > 
> >No matter what, the reaction needs at least 13% MeOH, but more is always better. Of course, with more MeOH, you are adding to your energy costs to distill it back out of the glycerin. I distill 40 gallons of MeOH/glycerin at a time and usually recover 5 gallons of beuatiful MeOH. It costs me $3/gallon to buy MeOH and the electrical costs for 24 hours of distillation mean that I pay $1/gallon for recovered MeOH.
> >
> >Barry
> >Chicago, IL
> >
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